Posts by Half banana

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PIMO GB members?

by Half banana in

the gb individuals are chosen not by holy spirit as we well know but by being selected for one quality only, that of implaccable loyalty to the watchtower organisation.. to be up there requires the fixation that the org is being used by god -- even though now in the small print they claim they are not divinely guided -- what a laugh, what a puzzle?.

the more i watch their antics the more implausible they seem.

their function: to persuade as many people as possible to conform to their own whacky beliefs.. most jws eventually leave the fold, only one third remain as we understand, so will any of the gb become pimo?.

Half banana

The GB individuals are chosen not by holy spirit as we well know but by being selected for one quality only, that of implaccable loyalty to the Watchtower organisation.

To be up there requires the fixation that the org is being used by God -- even though now in the small print they claim they are not divinely guided -- what a laugh, what a puzzle?

The more I watch their antics the more implausible they seem. Their function: to persuade as many people as possible to conform to their own whacky beliefs.

Most JWs eventually leave the fold, only one third remain as we understand, so will any of the GB become PIMO?

As the wind goes out of the sails of the JW org, will some GB members wake up? Or have they already? What would be the effect if one were to leave now?

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''Special Letter'' to be Read In Canada Week of Feb 3,2019

by Beth Sarim in

i have just been informed that there is a 'special letter' to be read at the meetings week of feb 3,2019 in canada.

anybody heard of this!!

just a heads-up!

Half banana

Synonyms for "special"

exceptional, particular, unusual, marked, singular, uncommon, notable, noteworthy, remarkable, outstanding, unique

That'll be the day when JW HQ actually says something special, such as "the governing body have decided to close all Kingdom Halls".

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WT about child abuse

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

friends,.

there is something realy wrong if you have to tell your church members what to report to who when child abuse happens.. g..

Half banana

Absolutely right Gorby! It just goes to show what irrational demands the governing body make for their flock. It also shows that THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT CHILD WELFARE, above all things they care only for their public reputation.

Jehovah's Witnesses are a sick cult

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Who will be resurrected? The righteous and the unrighteous

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

chapter seven.

there will be a resurrection.

17 who will be resurrected?

Half banana

@DellaStreet, screwed they are!

One of the reasons that the Roman elite disliked Christians was that they were gullible. Roman piety was one of respect for the gods and not a literalist belief in the stories about them.

Christians or believers in the Christ story hit a new low in credulity by telling people that their hero character had recently been there living among them, living the life of a traditional god-man who was crucified and was brought back to life again. The authorities thought these monotheist christ-cultists were cretins (an appropriate word drawn from the French for christian) because they took the traditional tales to be literally true, how bizarre!

Funny how after 105 billion human births and deaths that no one person has ever come back to life--and nobody quote the Bible because it is a fairy tale. And........ Dr Frankenstein had a go at resurrection with disastrous results! Yet Mary Shelly, through her tale was able to illuminate powerfully just what humanity means through the fictional "creature". This is how written stories can enrich our minds-- but don't start saying they really happened.

If a person believes in Adam and Eve, the Flood or resurrection as being true, then you have a barrier to thinking clearly, so please stop and consider why you demean your intelligence to want to believe these fictions.

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Daily Text - 1/30/19

by Jidders in

the love of the greater number will grow cold.—matt.

24:12. i read the daily text today, thoughts on a scripture that does seem to be somewhat fulfilled with the increase in atheism and alternative religions?

it had definitely been going on back then but is it a general assumption?.

Half banana

When you read the Gospels Jidders you have to remember that the words were intended for one of the many Christ cults of the first century and were relevant to keeping them loyal supporters to stay 'within the compound'. That is why the language of Jesus' warnings often seem relevant to modern Bible cults like JWs and other doomsday watchers.

On the other hand the end never did arrive in the first century as Jesus promised (black mark for JC) and the signs only fully made sense in his day. Like "they will flog you in the synagogues" as it says in the oldest and original Gospel Mark, and "let those in Judea run to the hills...."

Is it reasonable to pick out only those bits which possibly could make sense today and ignore the rest?

The JW org select from the Bible what is useful for their purpose in keeping the flock blinkered and under their tight control. "The love of the greater number" when analysed, is pretty broad and meaningless outside of cultic interpretation. The evidence is that most people today in developed lands are far more caring and socially aware and responsible than at any time in human history.

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Hungry?? Don’t worry- I’ll feed you soon....

by stuckinarut2 in

how often have we heard jws (and christians in general) speak about how “god will step in soon and fix earths woes”.

a thought came to mind that i would love to calmly say to the person that says we should “wait on god”.

if your child looks up at you with big eyes, and a pained look on his face and says “daddy, i’m so hungry.

Half banana

Xanthippe, from your trinity of God, Jesus and the tooth fairy, ignore the first two because the tooth fairy is the only one which comes up with the goods.

But your point is right, there is no supercharged god-like father figure who will sort things out. This is the primary fallacy of religion and invites comparison with holding the naive mentality and viewpoint of a helpless child.

Religious belief infantilises people-- and that's exactly how cult leaders want their flocks to remain.

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Sir Isaac Newton

by I Faded Twice in

wasn't it isaac newton that calculated the date that the end would be?

it was like 2062 i think.

anyways why doesnt the gb adopt isaac newton say the end is coming in 2062 and then if it fails to come blame it on him?

Half banana

This is JW talk not ex-JW talk. The world will not be ending, just each of our lives, so don't waste them on pointless speculation. Newton was a genius at physics but not religion.

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Who will be resurrected? The righteous and the unrighteous

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

chapter seven.

there will be a resurrection.

17 who will be resurrected?

Half banana

Has anyone ever been resurrected? Is it reasonable to resurrect people? Millions of them?

It is totally absurd and beyond imagination.

It is easy to put in writing and induce people to conform to a cult by promising resurrections (but you have to be gullible first). It is against reason to resurrect someone, against historical facts, against biology and evolutionary experience, and also beyond anyone's ability to perform the miracle.

No single person has ever been resurrected. . . except in myth and magic fairy tales.

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Just peeking in for a bit...

by Jidders in

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friends

i rather apprehensively would like to say hello.. i've been raised somewhat in the truth,one of my parents is rather rather strong in the beliefs but could honestly be considered pomi with how active they are and their side of the family comes from a line of witnesses, the other parent was but faded a long time ago.

as such i was taught quite a bit of jw teachings between family and off and on again bible studies.

recently i had a serious emotional break down over a few months after said pomi parent had advised me that they would not attend my wedding should that day come (i also had recieved a text from my bible teacher i hadnt heard from in a year or two giving a scripture) and it sorta all sank on me that my activity over the last few years was not really jw material.

Half banana

Jidders welcome to the site. Factual things should not make anyone feel weary!

Try and distinguish between what is a belief and what is factual. JW teachings are mere beliefs.

Beliefs are unprovable things such as Armageddon, the kingdom of God, angels etc. They use these ideas to manipulate their flock. Be prepared to have your own say and not fear religious warnings.

Prophecy is quite useless, remember Jesus got it completely wrong when he said that the kingdom of God would come in glory in his day and be witnessed by some of his listeners. Mark 9;1.

Discover who you are and what you can do--this is far more important than learning about fearful beliefs from a crank religion.

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If you had to

by rolliepollie in

if you had to follow one religion, what would it be and why?.

Half banana

If it was compulsory to join a religion I would have to make up my own.

Religion ultimately depends on three primary things: ignorance, faith and reward. What useful thing can you do with mainly irrational ingredients?

There is no merit in denying scientifically determined facts but you have to do so if your purpose is to be a "believer". Faith is involved because the beliefs are based on the words of invisible creatures who are spelling out the holy imperatives. Religion only works if the believer is promised a reward otherwise why put yourself through foolish hoops if there is no benefit at the end?

Now my cat has been seen by neighbours leaping six feet off the ground and catching pigeons in mid-air which he drags home alive through the cat flap and devours in the kitchen shedding sacrificial blood with feathers all over the place. He is ignorant of human things although it has to be said he is highly informed and expert in rodent and bird demolition. Despite snacking all day long on these creatures he still has faith in the reward of me feeding him, so in the absence of anything better I will have to go for the Cat Feeding Religion. Like the irrationality found in all "True Religions" it is mad that I feed my cat when he is perfectly capable of looking after himself.